Buying a Wind Turbine - FAQs

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Would you like to Create Your Own Electricity and Laugh at Rising Energy Prices while Saving the Environment and having the Electricity Company Pay You?

Owning your own Wind Turbine has never been so easy and economic. What’s more, the South West of England, especially Devon and Cornwall, has one of the best wind resources in Europe. However, we imagine that you have lots of questions about wind turbines that you would like to ask. We hope to answer the most frequently asked questions regarding small wind turbines below. For instance - did you know that you would be paid for all the electricity that your wind turbine generates, including the electricity that you use?

1. Why buy a Wind Turbine?
2. What is the specification of the Wind Turbines that Greenthinking sell?
3. What size Wind Turbine will I need?
4. How much electricity will the turbine generate?
5. What is a good site for a Wind Turbine and what wind speed do I need?
6. How much does a Wind Turbine cost?
7. Are Wind Turbines noisy?
8. Are building mounted Wind Turbines recommended?
9. What are ROCs and Feed in Tariffs?
10. Do I need Planning Permission? 
11. What happens to the electricity that my wind turbine generates?
12. Can I sell surplus electricity?
13. Does a wind turbine harm birds or bats?
14. Does a wind turbine affect radar systems or TV reception?
15. How can I get more information?

1. Why buy a Wind Turbine?

A Wind Turbine is an investment which will more than pay for itself over its lifetime. The length of time to recoup the initial investment depends on a number of factors such as wind speed, location and local landscape. 

There are many reasons why people like to own their own wind turbine to generate electricity including:

- to reduce or eliminate electricity bills
- to provide an income from the Feed in Tariff
- to increase security of electricity supply
- to protect against electricity price rises
- to provide electricity to a remote location which doesn’t have a grid connection
- to reduce or offsett carbon emissions
- as an investment and home improvement that pays for itself
- for educational purposes

Greenthinking source what we consider to be the best Wind Turbines available and use suppliers that, in our opinion, provide a highly professional service.

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2. What is the specification of the Wind Turbines that Greenthinking sell?

Greenthinking sell three main wind turbines*, all of which are leaders in their class. The Evance Iskra R9000 is a 5kW wind turbine, the Gaia 133 is an 11kW wind turbine and the Endurance E-3120 is a 55kW wind turbine. All three turbines are capable of outperforming other wind turbines of a higher kW rating.

*Because Greenthinking is fully independant we can quote you for most small wind turbines on the UK market.

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3. What size Wind Turbine will I need?

Before we look at physical size and what you actually require lets consider how we should compare wind turbines.

Firstly you should not just compare the power ratings (maximum kW output) of a wind turbine as these ratings are determined at a certain wind speed which is often above that at which the turbine usually operates. In this case size is not always better!

All other things being equal (in terms of tower height, efficiency etc) the size of the area ‘swept’ by the blades as they turn is one of the best ways to compare wind turbines. This is known as the ‘swept area’ and is clearly related to the size of the rotors. The Gaia 133 has a large swept area of 133 m2. This is remarkable for a small wind turbine and it allows the Gaia to outperform some 20kW wind turbines at typical wind speeds.

Regarding the Iskra, whilst the swept area remains important it manages to outperform its nearest competitors (including a 6kW wind turbine) because of its unique blade design and exceptional efficiency. The Evance Iskra R9000 is the most efficient 5kw wind turbine currently available on the market.

So, as you can see, rated power is not the best indicator when recommending a small wind turbine. What really matters to you is the energy that the wind turbine will generate each year, which is a factor of many different things, and not just the rated power. To determine whether an Iskra or a Gaia would be the most suitable wind turbine for you, Greenthinking will take into account such factors as your intended use of the electricity generated, current and future electricity usage, site and naturally your budget.

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4. How much electricity will the turbine generate?

The amount of electricity that you generate from your wind turbine will vary depending on which turbine you have and the annual mean wind speed at your site. Please contact Greenthinking for an estimate.

The average household uses approximately 4MWh of electricity annually and more if heated by electricity. A community centre, school farm or commercial premises could use more than 20MWh.

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5. What wind speed do I need and what is a good site for a Wind Turbine?

Wind Speed
The output from a wind turbine depends on the strength of the wind over time. The power available increases by the cube of the wind velocity multiplied by the swept area of the blades. For example an increase of 1m/s from 4.5m/s to 5.5m/s will nearly double the output from our 5kW turbine, from 6,900 kWhs per year to 11,200 kWhs. Therefore capturing the best wind speed available on your site is of paramount importance. Ideally you also require a steady air flow, and not a turbulent flow which could be caused by trees, buildings, or the topography.

The important measurement for wind speed is the Annual Mean Wind Speed (AMWS). For an estimate of your AMWS please click here or alternatively contact Greenthinking and provide us with your postcode and we will advise you of the estimated wind speed at your site.

For best results and acceptable payback times an Iskra requires a AMWS greater than 4.7 m/s (10.5 mph) and the Gaia requires an AMWS greater than 4.2m/s (9.6 mph) and the Endurance an AMWS greater than 5.0m/s (11.2 mph).

Site
Siting is all important for many reasons and Greenthinking will discuss the best position(s) for your wind turbine during your site survey. As mentioned above the higher and steadier the wind speed the more electricity you will produce. Firstly, using a national database, Greenthinking will estimate your Annual Mean Wind Speed (AMWS) at the proposed position of the wind turbine to see if it meets the minimum requirements. We will apply an adjustment to the figure obtained based on the general surroundings, e.g. hedges, rural etc.

You will also require a position at least 100m from a neighbours property for an Iskra, 120m from a neighbours property for a Gaia and possibly as much as 350 - 400m from a property for an Endurance. This is required to minimise the possibility of objections from neighbours regarding views, noise and shadow flicker*. We would also advise that the wind turbine is sited at least 75m from your own property, (preferably 100m) and at least 350m from your own property for the Endurance.

Buildings and trees cause wind turbulence and this is undesirable for any wind turbine. It is therefore important to site the wind turbine as far away as is possible from any obstruction(s) that cause turbulence, especially obstructions downwind in the prevailing wind direction (usually south westerly). The diagram below shows the area affected as the wind flows over a building:

Some manufactures claim that vertical axis wind turbines overcome the problem of turbulence by having blades designed to capture the wind from any direction. Greenthinking are far from convinced of this. For any given size of wind turbine a Vertical-axis Turbine will produce less energy than a Horizontal-axis Turbine. In addition, with the air flow close to the ground producing turbulent flow this introduces issues of vibration noise and bearing wear in Vertical-axis Wind Turbines which is likely to cause an increase in maintenance over a shorter period of time.

Where practicable, wind turbines should be installed on towers tall enough to take advantage of the stronger, less turbulent winds. Greenthinking will advise in the best height of tower for your wind turbine during the site survey. Usually we would recommend the highest tower possible as the extra benefits, in terms of increased electricity generated, far out ways the extra cost. However there are other factors we will take into account including the visibility of the turbine from the surrounding area and neighbours properties.

*Shadow Flicker: Sunlight passing through the blades of a wind turbine, especially when the sun is low in the sky, can cause a light flickering effect. This is also taken into account in site selection. The turbine blades are coated in a way as to minimise reflection of the sun from them.

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6. How much does a Wind Turbine cost?

The Evance Iskra R9000 costs approx. £24,000 and the Gaia 133 between £43,500 and £46,000.

The Endurance E-3120 costs in excess of £230,000.

Prices are subject to a Site Survey/Feasibility Study and include, cable and VAT but not groundwork’s (foundations and trench work).

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7. Are Wind Turbines noisy?

Like any rotating machinery all wind turbines make a noise and often this is the most emotive issue for objections to wind turbines of all sizes. Unfortunately there is a lot of mis-information out in the public domain. Most people who have seen an Evance Iskra R9000 or Gaia 133 at our open days have been surprised how quiet they are; some people have even said to us that they like the noise they make! Greenthinking  will provide you with detailed information on the expected noise levels and provide evidence to support your planning application.

The Evance Iskra R9000 has been designed to be very quiet indeed. The rotor design, and in particular the low rotor tip speed, coupled with the direct drive system (no gearbox), all ensure quiet operation. Minimising noise was also a key objective for Gaia-Wind’s engineers. The principal source of noise originates from the turbine blades. The constant and low rotational speed of the Gaia 133 wind turbine makes it among the quietest in its class.

In practice the turbine noise is often masked by background noises such as the noise of the wind blowing through the trees or traffic. Click here to watch a video (with sound) of a Gaia 133 taken by a customer at an open day in Cornwall - the customers conclusion "I am now convinced that the Gaia will not be a noise problem".

As a general rule, Greenthinking feel it is only fair on your neighbours to locate the wind turbine at least 100m away (350m for the Endurance). The sound from the wind turbine is however gentle in tone, and it would be quiet reasonable to locate the wind turbine closer to your own property.

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8. Are building mounted Wind Turbines recommended?

No, at least not by Greenthinking!  The two main problems are turbulence and possible structural damage.

A wind turbine needs a steady flow of wind. Buildings deflect the wind causing turbulence so the turbine spends more time ‘looking’ for the wind and the efficiency of the turbine is compromised. Buildings are designed to take compressive loads, not lateral loads that a building mounted wind turbine would impart. The vibration of the wind turbine would be transmitted to the building on which they are mounted with possible damage to the structure of the building.

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9. What are ROCs and Feed in Tariffs?

Renewable Obligation Certificates are soon to be phased out for small wind turbines but please look at the ofgem website for an explanation.

Feed in Tariffs (Clean Energy Cash Back Scheme)
Please also see our Feed in Tariff FAQs page.

The UK government aims to source at least 30% of electricity from renewable sources by 2020. To help meet this target a feed-in-tariff (FIT) is being introduced on 1st April 2010 offering a price premium (or cash back) for electricity generated by small-scale renewable energy technologies. The FiT for wind turbines >1.5kW up to 15kW has been fixed at 26.7p/kWh generated for the first two years. This will reduce the pay-back period for such technologies significantly (e.g. pay-back for small wind turbines could be less than 4 years in some instances). Once you have paid for the initial cost of your wind turbine you will actually ‘make money’ from your investment for the remaining 20 years that you would be eligible for the FiT. 

The FiT will be paid for all electricity produced whether you use it yourself or export it to the national grid. In addition you would avoid having to buy the electricity that you use and there will be an additional payment for any electricity exported to the national grid. All payments and savings will be Linked to inflation and will be Tax free for those generating electricity mainly for domestic use. 
The FiT will be paid for 20 years for wind projects, however the scheme is designed to provide increased benefit to those who enter the scheme sooner rather than later.

If this was not enough the FiT will also guarantee a minimum payment of 3p (on top of the 26.7p) for each kW you export back to the National Grid.

Where's the catch? As the Money Guardian said on its front page on Saturday 6th February "There isn't one"!

For a table of the Feed in Tariff available for each renewable technology please click here.

If you’re thinking that this is too good to believe then please contact Greenthinking for further information.

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10. Do I need Planning Permission?

Yes - Planning is the all important step, as without planning permission you cannot install a wind turbine. Greenthinkingg will provide a planning support document if you choose to prepare the planning application yourself. We can also arrange for a complete planning service on your behalf by an experienced Chartered Planner. For further details of our planning service please contact Greenthinking.

The planners will look at many aspects of your proposed installation that are mentioned in this FAQs section including proximity to neighbours, visibility, noise and possible effects of birds and bats. Thankfully planning permission is becoming easier, even in AONBs and SSSIs as the government has made commitments to ensure that councils give permission, unless there are credible objections rather than ‘not in my back yard’ complaints.

The UK's Planning Portal's interactive house provides an overview of planning permission and building regulations for householders.

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11. What happens to the Electricity that my Wind Turbine generates?

There are 3 main types of Turbine Configuration.

1. Grid Tied Configuration
This is by far the most common configuration for Small Wind Turbines. The turbine is connected to the National Grid via an inverter and dual tariff meter. The advantage of this system is that you are able to sell electricity to an electricity supply company when you are not using all the electricity that your wind turbine is producing. When you are not producing enough electricity to meet your demand (e.g. on calm days) then you will buy electricity from your supply company. In the event of a power failure the system automatically shuts down to protect anyone who may be working on the grid.

2. Battery Configuration
Battery Configured Small Wind Turbines are useful for isolated sites or outbuildings (e.g. Chicken Farms) which are not connected to the National Grid. The turbine charges a bank of batteries which then supply direct current (DC) to a DC circuit within the building. The price of the battery bank is usually going to mean a more expensive system.

3. Integrated Battery Configuration
These systems charge a battery bank as with the battery configuration and then the battery bank feeds a simple inverter that changes the DC into alternating current (AC). The AC is then used to supply one or more of the homes circuits and should the battery power fall too low a relay switches the supply back to the national grid supply. In this set up the system continues to work during a power cut but you would not be able to sell any excess power back to your electricity supplier.

Greenthinking will normally, without charge, take care of obtaining permission from your local electricity network supplier (DNO) for you to attach a your wind turbine to the national grid.

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12. Can I sell surplus Electricity?

Yes, if you have a Grid Tied Configuration (see above).

You must seek an agreement with an electricity supplier to buy your generated electricity and claim your ROCs or FITs. For current advice on Selling your Electricity Generated please click here. Please also see details of ROCs and Feed in Tariffs above.

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13. Does a wind turbine harm birds or bats?

Bird strikes do happen but it is very rare for a small wind turbine. Vehicles, windows and cats kill millions more birds than wind turbines and we are unlikely to stop driving, remove our windows or ban cats! Greenthinking will take possible wildlife implications into account during the Site Survey and the local planners will also consider possible effects on wildlife. Greenthinking may propose a position for your wind turbine that is not the optimum position if we feel that the optimum position may affect the wellbeing of birds, bats or other wildlife.

It is worth noting here the view of the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds: “climate change is the most serious long-term threat to wildlife in the UK and globally and, therefore, RSPB supports the Government’s target to source 15% of electricity from renewables by 2015.”

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14. Does a wind turbine affect radar systems of TV reception?

Small wind turbines the size of an Iskra or Gaia are very unlikely to cause detrimental effects on aviation and associated radar or navigational equipment. Neither are they likely to effect signals used for television, radio or mobile phones.

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15. How can I get More Information?

Please contact Greenthinking and we will gladly answer any question that you put to us regarding small or medium size wind turbines.

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